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You don't have the protections of U.S. law at the border.

CBP is also asking, not compelling. You don't have to give them your password. If you don't, and you're a foreigner, you may be turned away. If you're a citizen, and I remember correctly, they can seize your device for up to two days if they want.

But they're not going to put you in prison for refusing like the U.K. and Hong Kong will.


If you're a US citizen, I believe they can seize your device indefinitely, and detain you for up to two days. They are required to let you eventually back into the country though.

(If you're not a citizen, all bets are off)


Here's what the ACLU says:

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/can-border-agen...

I think the 48h detention is across the board (without a judge involved, border or not the border). ACLU says device seizure is up to 5 days barring "extenuating circumstances", whatever that means.


The same article says they can fairly arbitrarily do repeated 7-day extensions. And:

> We’ve received reports of phones being held for weeks or even months.


You dont have protectiond of US law on the border, inside the border and barely if you are a citizen far away from border. Realistically.

And also actually per law. And yes, being forced to give out passwords and make profiles public as a rputine thing is much worst then being forced to give out password when there is actual warrant.


CBP has absolutely put me in jail (not prison) for refusing to answer questions (including the strip search and being put in chains and handcuffs). As well as threatening to revoke my passport (though they could not). On another occasion they threatened to deport me even though I'm a US citizen. On yet another, they faked a drug dog hit then dragged me to multiple hospitals, racking up bills in my name while claiming I was packing drugs up my ass. I am still being chased by debt collectors for the last one.

I've contacted multiple lawyers and the answer got was they've tried cases like these before and they always lose so they don't take them anymore. Though this was pre-Trump, now it's suddenly in vogue to take up longshot border or immigration cases.


That sucks. You were wronged, and I hope you get justice.

In the U.K. or Hong Kong, "justice" would entail prison.


Where do I donate to oppose this bullshit?

I want to open my wallet. It should be the top comment.


Donate a phone call. You aren't gonna win the bribing war against people who own a machine that turns your worthless data into millions of dollars.

If everybody who cared to and lived in the affected districts called they would kill the bill just to clear their phone-lines.


The nuclear option is linux


.gov would love a graphene-native phone if manufactured in the U.S. or by an American company


I don't know the feminist take, but just to explain: the reason there is much much more polygyny than polyandry is basic reproduction mechanics. Women max out at ~13 kids, the most reproductively successful men have had thousands. So, a single well-resourced man can keep a bevy of wives at close to their reproductive limit no problem.

(Well, problems come when you do this as a society and create an age group of young men who have no shot at a wife because of 50/50 birth ratio. They get violent.)


As of six months ago the non-smartphone flow did not work. Totally unsurprising for the UK, of course.


God Bless America


Jan 6 wasn't an insurrection. Nobody was armed except one guy with a pistol and the dude with a spear. It was a bunch of obese methbillies trashing the place.

Insurrections do not look like that.


- Jan 6, the day the votes are certified by Congress.

- The goal was interrupting the peaceful transfer of presidential power, a foundational element of U.S. constitutional governance.

- Force was used to disrupt lawful governmental authority.

- Part of a larger conspiracy to use alternate slates of electors to dispute the election and send it back to state legistatures (see Eastman memo and resulting lawsuits).


All these things are true except

- Force was used to disrupt lawful governmental authority.

In the end, it wasn't anything history books will recognize as an insurrection. Because it wasn't an insurrection. That word means something, and this wasn't it. Was it bad? A bad thing? Yes, it was a bad thing I'd say. Not an insurrection though. Whatever those people did, it wasn't going to change anything. The powers that be could have had every last one of them killed with a snap of their fingers. They didn't because that would have been an overreaction to a bunch of methbillies trashing the place.


This is a defeatist attitude.

Run grapheneos!


Hilarious


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