But that just delegates the problem to the gateway. My personal experience with these guys let's me assume the worst. E.g. not being able and willing to only send me confidential information with signed mail and similar things.
But somebody stores the CC-data, and I wonder why that can't be an encrypted storage only the CC-card-companies can decrypt. Of course this would need some protocol, but can it be so hard (especially when that much is at stake?)
The Python jobs are web-related only though. While Python is used inside Live itself, it's not enough to justify a pure-Python coder position for that.
But the web-team is large enough to also offer more back-end related work, which is the reason we advertise Python-developers instead of Web-developers only.
I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end.
I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end.
I guess this is unavoidable in just about any web development job these days but at least the context is a little more intrinsically interesting at Ableton. At least to me.
I'm the chap responsible for the Python developer hiring at Ableton.
To sum it up: I don't give a rats ass for any degrees. I don't even have one myself. We send applicants a programming test. I get these tests, and I assess them without even skimming the CV. Because it would otherwise just skew my observations.
If the test convinced me that you can code, you will have a job-interview, via phone or in person depending on if it's feasible to fly you in to Berlin or not.
This interview is pure technical, either.
If this convinced me that you are a good coder, I will arrange a third interview with the CTO, who has the final say on all employments. I won't spoil the enjoyment of that for you :)
Thank you for your fast reply which was quite revealing.
I've been into electronic music production & sounddesign for about 8 years now. But I never saw a way that this could somehow be helpful when it comes to finding a job.
Two terms of CS gave me some insight into programming but I mainly solved little mathematical problems rather than gaining insight into "real world software programming".
Now I am attending business school and try to figure out how to avoid a typical office job so that I can do something more rewarding, where I can be somewhat more myself, instead.
I should seriously get into programming in my spare time...
Sorry to everyone else for hijacking this thread. ;-)
€: just finished the video. Looks like an awesome working atmosphere indeed!
Hi, I have read the job descriptions and they sound really great. I have 2 questions:
1. I have left university 13 months ago and have worked for an online shopping company in Berlin ever since. I have done freelance development as a student, so is the 2 years experience an absolute must?
2. The hiring page is in English but would you like a German-style application (photo, lots and lots of certificates and grades) or the much shorter Anglicized version (3 pages max).
The 2 years are no strict requirement. If you apply for a job + I like your programming test, you are interviewed.
Regarding the CV: give us whatever you have. I personally won't read it, eventually somebody in HR might - but it's not used to filter applications.
The other day we even looked at a 20-year old highschool student, because he looked promising. Neither CV nor experience. We didn't take him for a bunch of reasons, but that's another story.
Hi! It's nice about the degree, I'm also a dropout. One question: is fluent german necessary, or can a newcomer speak english and learn on the way? I'm quite good at learning languages, but I suppose I won't speak fluently in the next few months :)
Ableton Live fanboy here -- You guys are doing a great job. I haven't looked into it lately but what's the status on scripting Live (with Python or whichever language) ? I would kill to have an API I could use to create tracks programmatically.
No. It makes no sense to us. Regardless of how good one is, the amount of time & effort until he or she is productive is a waste IMHO. And working with SCRUM makes it even harder, as there are no idling side-projects one can place a student on and then look at occasionally. All devlopers need to be real team members.
