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What mattered was that Pollievre waited weeks to defend Canada against the US threats. That scared a lot of voters. Showed us who he really was.

That's not my recollection of the events. I think "showed us who he really was" is just the FUD spread by the Liberals. I have left leaning friends and their opinions of PP are totally disconnected from the reality of what he says and does, they are just repeating the talking points they get from their circle.

Nobody wants to debate actual policy and basically we ended up with a different conservative, Carney, whose actual policies are in my opinion iffy ans his performance the same. Scare tactics are easier than policy debate.


I mean… we elect leaders to represent us and protect our country. If the other guy looked like he was willing to give the country away, well, that means he wasn’t the best person for the job. Trump rhetoric just showed us how ready Pierre Pollievre was to lead us: aka, he wasn’t.

Arguably we don’t actually vote for leaders in Canada as much as we vote against leaders.

Go talk to actual Canadians. Lol. Only people that agree with you are Canadians now?

Everything I hear around me is people coming back from the US, they don’t feel safe with their family.

Oh, just saw you created your account an hour ago. Never mind then, just making shit up to troll.


No, meaning the online world is MUCH different than reality.

Reddit is a great example, it's like a different dimension of reality.


Also Canadian here (I've been using this account for years despite the name though).

The above poster is correct that Canada also has a lot of problems. I lived in the U.S. for 20 years and probably would have stayed if I could have. For many people, moving to the U.S. was seen as highly desirable for a long time, especially for tech workers.

I've noticed the reverse is true since around the start of Trump's presidency (not for tech workers though, at least not yet).

I also agree with the suggestion that Canada is at risk of falling into fascism as well.. we were a razor's edge away from electing our own version of Trump in our most recent election almost a year ago... funnily enough, Trump's talk of annexing Canada shortly before the election swung the polls enough that the Liberals were able to retain power (and fortunately, with a minority government that gives our 2 social democratic parties some political sway even with only a handful of MPs).

Now there may be more Canadians coming back (and American refugees coming) that the tide has noticeably shifted.


If Trump only hires people best for the job, why am I only seeing old white men next to him 99% of the time? Are they the best of the best?

Who said Trump hires the best people for the job? That’s not what I said.

The message sent, perhaps more accurately, was that the USofA electorate fully bought into the Trump / Project 2025 framing of the "problems" facing the USofA.

eg:

> People don’t want an open border. Not in America, not anywhere else.

And yet recently prior administrations famously did enforce contempory border protections and prioritised chasing down people with actual criminal records.

Past administrations, eg. the Republican Eisenhower, have been in favour of open borders for the cheap labour and boost to the agricultural industry.

His often cited border enforcement operation was undertaken at the request of the Mexican government who were losing labor to US agribusiness.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

All that aside, the USofA Democrat party has a messaging and PR problem of epic proportions and the USofA has spiralled into a two party Hotelling's Law cesspit despite the founders largely disliking party politics - a fundemental flaw in the forward iteration of an "adequate for now" electoral system centuries old.


Sure, recent past administrations enforced border protections and prioritized deporting immigrants with criminal records. And that’s irrelevant.

The Biden administration did neither. They took active measures to strip the Customs and Border Protection Agency of its scope and authority through executive order from their first day in office. Their policies directly led to over 2.4 million border encounters in 2023 alone, the most ever recorded in the history of the country.

This wasn’t policy they campaigned on or announced. It wasn’t something the American people wanted, and it polled terribly even among Democrats. But they did it anyway.

Conversely, Trump had the voter’s mandate to secure the border when he entered office, but he’s managed it so poorly, created terrible optics, and has Democrats marching in the streets in every major U.S. city in support of illegal immigration. The Republicans make the Democrats look like PR masters by comparison.


I'm not a partisan US voter.

> The Biden administration did neither.

This appears to be a partisan statement subject to data source and bias. eg:

  The Biden administration took office amid heightened debate in some circles over the merits and tactics of deportations, yet it is on track to carry out as many removals and returns as the Trump administration did.

  The 1.1 million deportations since the beginning of fiscal year (FY) 2021 through February 2024 (the most recent data available) are on pace to match the 1.5 million deportations carried out during the four years President Donald Trump was in office. These deportations are in addition to the 3 million expulsions of migrants crossing the border irregularly that occurred under the pandemic-era Title 42 order between March 2020 and May 2023—the vast majority of which occurred under the Biden administration.

  Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration (5 million in its second term).
~ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-re...

> Their policies directly led to over 2.4 million border encounters in 2023 alone, the most ever recorded in the history of the country.

Their policies or global events? Either way the sheer number of recorded border ecounters speaks to them being out and about and actively encountering people on the border ... when thought about, that's hardly a bad thing - it sounds more as if they were getting the job done.

To be clear, I have zero interest in debating this aside from noting it's hardly clearcut.

> The Republicans make the Democrats look like PR masters by comparison.

They are indeed superlative propagandadists, on this we can agree ...

they are, however, in a view from afar, falling well short of actually making middle North America great again, gutting essential infrastructure maintainance, etc. etc.

But few will ever know given they've also gutted many of the means of tracking the state of the country, the state of the environment, the activities of their administration.


Counting deportations is half the equation. If Biden was deporting roughly as many people as Trump, but there are 4X as many people crossing the border, it wasn’t good enforcement. Look at net illegal immigration to get the impact, and it’s estimated the number of illegal immigrants increased by 3.5 million people during Biden’s term.

You say "illegal immigrants" to describe people that had border contact, made application, and were allowed into the USofA as "as yet documented" applicants.

People that, for the most part, committed no crime, made no attempt to hide, paid taxes, ran businesses, and employed others.

eg: https://www.wpbf.com/article/florida-vigil-conducted-for-det...

Your complaint is about an unsourced alleged increase on the order of 3.5 million taxpayers.

Again, this is about messaging, perception and propaganda.


I encourage you to seek objective statistics on political isssues instead of repeating what the news media (any media) repeat to you.

Obama began an unprecedented increase in deportations (guess who gave the CURRENT director of ICE his first job?).

Biden continued this.

Maybe what you mean is that they didn’t call immigrants by names on TV?


Yes, Obama increased deportations, and deported people at a faster rate than Trump. But that’s completely irrelevant when we’re talking about the Biden administration, who did not continue this policy, who reversed it, who allowed an unprecedented number of illegal immigrants through his executive orders and policy set by Mayorkas, with many millions more granted asylum status with reduced vetting. This was not reported by the news media until it inevitably reached crisis level.

The very fact that Obama deported more immigrants, and Trump is deporting fewer but with riots in the streets should clue you in to the effect that media has over you.


> The very fact that Obama deported more immigrants, and Trump is deporting fewer but with riots in the streets should clue you in to the effect that media has over you.

Whoa. To refresh my memory, how many American citizens were shot by ICE under Obama? How many cities were threatened with Insurrection Act occupations? Maybe deporting people doesn't require such actions, and "the effect that the media has" is highlighting how ridiculous these behaviors are.

(Just so we leave the realm of ad hominem and return to data, these figures are a helpful baseline: https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2019/table3... )

edit: more data https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-re... . I sincerely hope you will re-adjust your priors based on actual data (some of it from the current administration!) as opposed to what you hear on the radio or television.


During Obama’s presidency ICE wasn’t dealing with protestors actively interfering with day-to-day operations in cities throughout the country. Remove the protestors, and the probability of a civilian getting shot goes to ~0. Of course dozens of non-citizens died during those years.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make with your data. The first doesn’t even cover Biden’s term, which again, is what I’m talking about. The second is extremely disingenuous because doesn’t take net illegal immigration into account. Even if Biden deported a similar number of people as Trump, he let far more people in: the net number of illegal immigrants in the country during Biden’s term is estimated to have risen by 3.5 million people.

When is the last time you questioned your priors?


> When is the last time you questioned your priors?

Every day, friend.

> During Obama’s presidency ICE wasn’t dealing with protestors actively interfering with day-to-day operations

What do you think the difference is? What do you think your most reasonable opponent might say? In a dispassionate analysis, who do you think is correct?

I do this all the time as a researcher.

> net number of illegal immigrants

Absolute non sequitur.


30% of house sales in Canada are not purchased in China, no.

Found the article. Vancouver specifically.

I believe this led to some legislation in 2023 to prevent or reduce foreign home buyers?

https://vancouversun.com/business/local-business/chinese-inv...


Regardless of who's right, you are aware that this is anecdata and survival biais right? Your experience with 2 single cars is not representative of how many years cars survive in average.

There is a point there: I can buy sheet metal and a welder at home depot and repair rust in a 1950s car (if I was really doing this I'd get better metals and a better welder, but the home depot stuff will work). If the CPU on my modern car breaks I can't fix it - worse, the computer industry has a long track record of stopping production on older chips and so there is a good chance the part I need won't be available at any price. (there are a few labs that can make a one-off chip - but they start at $60,000 each and that assumes you have all the designs ready)

Regardless of that, what most people are after is TCO.

Something tells me, and not only me, that longevity and ease of repair of these electrical gadgets are nowhere near old ICE car we all know very well. Is it direct experience with same type of cars across several decades? Nope, but experience with electronics in general, powered by similar batteries in general and its not looking good. More electronics = more failure surface.


20 billions is tiny?


That's the sales price of the company. Their marketshare, I imagine, is absolutely miniscule.


Market share wise, Groq is perhaps "tiny"? Nvidia may be paying a premium for Groq [0] since it eliminates competition (at least on the inference side).

[0] valued ~£6.5bn 2mo ago https://www.reuters.com/business/groq-more-than-doubles-valu...


WhatsApp was a tiny team


Is nowadays


It's basically Mastodon. The infrastructure is paid by its owner and often relies on donations from their users.


Is Mastodon a business?


Seems like Mastadon is just the Kitchen Aid of socials. Anyone can have their product(s), but not everyone can use them the same way. Those that use them better stand out from the rest to the point others might just stop using and the product just takes up space


There’s been tons of studies in tons of cities. It’s quite clear, for a landlord you make more per month on Airbnb than on a long term rental. So economically it makes sense. Toronto had to do those studies before city council passed a law to restrict airbnb.

You also saw it through covid when all those units flooded the rental market when international borders closed.


> There’s been tons of studies

Such as?

> You also saw it through covid when all those units flooded the rental market when international borders closed.

Toronto had an average of 12,270 daily active listings in 2019 [0]. Toronto had a population of around 2.7 million in 2019. The majority of this impact was caused by people leaving the cities to buy in the suburbs, move in with family, or return to their country of origin.

[0]: Page 7 https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2021/ph/bgrd/backgroundf...


It's relevant because it shows they are not newbie on the platform and are unlikely to have misbehave in some capacity to warrant a full deactivation. It adds credibility to their story.


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