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Looking at the pictures in the article, the level of detail is not particularly great in some parts. It seems like many building have very simple shape and color. With some modeling skill, I can imagine carving and painting 100s of these in a day. Although I can't imagine doing it for 20 years.

I would however like to know what his research was like. Was he just following Google Maps/Earth? They were released in 2005 and 2001 respectively and NY has had coverage from the get go.


It's called terrorism only when it comes from a certain region. Otherwise it's sparkling military action.

One thing to consider is that Trump is publicly stating that the US are destroying the infrastructure as a punishment for non-compliance. That basically makes it clear that the motive is not based on military considerations.

It's basically what russia is trying to do for years in Ukraine. Beating populatuon into submission. Which is even dumber in case of Iran since it's not a democratic country where population has much of a say.

Yeah I did wonder myself if that tweet was an admission of guilt.

If I were a lawyer responsible for defending Trump in the Hague, I'd argue that the tweet was actually an abbreviated way of saying "If Iran does not comply, we will destroy all military assets, including but not limited to their ICBMs, Bridges, and Power Stations, such that we have total military dominance."

Now very obviously (to me at least) this was not the intent of the message, but I don't know whether you could prove that in a hypothetical war crimes trial.


Russia is actually gaining people in this war. The occupied territory they intend to keep has a prewar population of 10M.

The mass graves they are making in occupied territories say otherwise.

That would be true if they were keeping the native population there alive. We know they were importing presumably loyal people from deep Russia. What happened to original occupants? You can guess.

However dilute the effect is, if they are able to hit a few gas/oil carriers with drones there, nobody is going to use that body of water.

> if they are able to hit a few gas/oil carriers with drones there, nobody is going to use that body of water

It’s a lot more feasible to escort tankers after the Strait than it is before, when American warships have to come close to shore. Iran doesn’t have the resources to deny access to the entire Indian Ocean.


> Iran doesn’t have the resources to deny access to the entire Indian Ocean.

I have what may be a scale issue in my imagination, so bear with me if this is silly.

There are reports of international drug transport via seaborne drones in the 0.5-5 tonne range, and of these crossing the Pacific, and the cost of the vehicles is estimated to be around 2-4 million USD each. If drug dealers can do that, surely Iran (and basically everyone with a GDP at least the size of something like Andorra's) should be able to make credible threats to disrupt approximately as much non-military shipping as they want to worldwide?


> if drug dealers can do that, surely Iran (and basically everyone with a GDP at least the size of something like Andorra's) should be able to make credible threats to disrupt approximately as much non-military shipping as they want to worldwide?

Sure. Do you think that means worldwide shipping would shut down?

And the point isn't to take the risk to zero. But to a level where military escorts can feel safe.


> Do you think that means worldwide shipping would shut down?

I think there's a danger of that, at least if countermeasures are not easily available for normal shipping.

Even 1-on-1 rather than 1-v-everyone, there's too many players (not all of them nations) with too many conflicting goals and interests. If Cuba tried to do it, could they credibly threaten to sink all sea-based trade involving the USA? If not Cuba, who would be the smallest nation that could?

And the same applies to Taiwan and China, in both directions, either of which would be fairly dramatic on the world stage, even though China also has land options. Or North Korea putting up an effective anti-shipping blockade against Japan.

> But to a level where military escorts can feel safe.

Are there enough military ships to do the escorting?


> I think there's a danger of that, at least if countermeasures are not easily available

Note that the era of free navigation is recent and short. Countermeasures would certainly emerge. But shipping wouldn’t stop.

> Are there enough military ships to do the escorting?

For critical passage, yes. If Iran is just taking pot shots at any ships anywhere, you basically have to actually blockade it.


The current situation is very dangerous. A global disruption in shipping would lead to an economic crisis that could start WW3 (imo).

Also the US and Europe would be pretty fucked since we depend on it much more.

China could still get resources from russia and is much more self sustained.

Also China and Russia want to break the us hegemony.


> the US and Europe would be pretty fucked since we depend on it much more. China could still get resources from russia and is much more self sustained

America would be fine. We have the Americas and Asia to trade with, and Iran can’t restrict those oceans in any meaningful way.

Europe, the Middle East, Africa and non-China Asia would get screwed.


If drug shippers can make drones cross the Pacific for a few million a time, why can't Iran reach the Pacific shipping lanes?

I think the main limit on them interfering with that shipping would be that China becomes unhappy with them, not that this is infeasible?

(Also, at these prices I don't think it will be limited to Iran, or even to nations, so countermeasures will need to be invented).


? There's really not much discussion of Iran being a problem outside the Gulf.

Iran can control the Gulf and therefore 20% of global carbons.

This is enough to put the world economy into recession.

America is not 'isolated' from the global economy.

US carbon produces don't give smack about the nation generally - they will sell to the highest bidder.

If global Oil prices skyrocket - you will pay that at the pump.

US is net carbon exporter, but there is trade - the refineries in the south are designed for heavy crude from Venezuela and Canada etc.

Yes, some national policies could alter a bit, but only in emergency, and the current Administration does not give a * about national issues, other than populist blowback. They will prefer their oil buddies by default, but with a lot of leaway for 'gas prices' causing voting problems.

US companies sell abroad, a global recession affects everything.

Just google OPEC crisis - you can see what high oil prices do, they screw everything up.

There's 100% chance of global recession if Gulf stays closed.

Given the 'leverage' in US market that can come way down. US GDP is currently held up with AI spending - if that math falters, that AI investment slows down, the US drops into recession, that causes flight from equities etc etc.

I don't think we need to speculate about anything outside of the Gulf.

It's bad, it needs to be resolved.

You see this calamity in the daily statements from WH - they are 'in out in out in out' in the same day they say 'witdhdraw' and then 'we must open the strait'.


They meant the Gulf. You cross the straight into the Gulf, then what?

Iran hit an E-3's antenna in an airport in Riyadh with a precision strike. Was it not worth defending?

How many tankers inside the Gulf do they need to hit before the rest of the world decides it's a bad idea to send new tankers to the Gulf?

And if new tankers don't go into the Gulf, then it's simply not open for business. That's their leverage.


Very much so. I wouldn't mind some interesting projects or results. But it's very basic opinions or parables all over again.


I enjoy working with it. I mostly just use it to define the input and outputs more programmatically compared to raw prompts.


It is very unlikely that Russia depends on Iran for its drone production. Iran is not producing any critical components that you could not get elsewhere. The export of Iranian drones was probably close to zero already after the last year's shootout.

Russia is still selling a comparable amount of oil as before the war (7 mb/d). The price going up (URALS was 50 at the start of the year, now it's more than double at 110) is definitely a great boon for them, as selling oil is one of the most important revenue streams for them.


Another interesting development is the ridiculous amount of background bluring in photos. Turns out you can find surprisingly large number of garages, warehouses, treelines, etc based on a single photo.


Geoguessr stuff can be mind blowing. Being able to identify down to the county from some random sky and corner of a power pole type stuff


And the real punchline is that the deluge of papers barely matters, as the academic field is barely moving, and the most interesting innovations are happening on the product side.


I disagree with this. Usually the products are based on published research. This is not easily seen by the enthusiast power user base.

Of course it's only a small fraction of all papers that end up actually being used. Most are mainly about advancing careers and strengthening CVs.


I have been in both academia and industry for years, and I don't think the model you describe is true anymore. It was definitely true 10 years ago, but the situation has flipped. Now, I see really ambitious and impactful research coming out of industry labs. Academia is often lagging behind the state of the art because they lack the resources (data, compute, and skills) to compete.

Academia is also incentivized such that everyone works on the same popular topics to secure grants and citations. This is currently LLMs, where academia needs to compete with multi-billion corporations on a technology that is notoriously expensive. In effect, many researchers work on topics that are pretty non-consequential from the get go (such as N+1th evaluation dataset), but it's the only way for them to stay relevant.


I recently talked with a PI from a well-known university lab, and asked why they were doing a startup, given the ML research problems they were working on.

They said a company was the only way to get access to the compute power they needed for that research.

A startup sounds like probably a good solution, if they get paired with the right product- and business-minded people, and together they find a winning collaboration. (Edit: Or if they get acquired rapidly in the AI boom, and negotiate the right deal to enable their research longer-term.)


A lot of those industry papers are in collab with an academic lab or even often first authored by a PhD student who interns in a big tech lab.


One key reason you’re wrong is that many interesting things aren’t even getting published, they’re on the DL for years and eventually make it to public spheres and products.

Academia is just a daycare at this point, and many labs shouldn’t exists or get funding. The people who move the field aren’t necessarily the ones with the most citations, they’re usually hard at work in places that don’t publish at all.


Are you talking about just frontier LLM agent stuff or all of the scope of ICML? I wonder what your subfield is.


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