Curious whether folks here think there is a real problem with current device use?

Or if the issue is but a rehashing of age-old debates about personal preferences/taste (De gustibus non disputandum est)

people who like this kind of think might also like Clearspace [1] -- they've got some great tools to fight the attention-hijackers

[1] https://www.getclearspace.com

There is an anti-trust trial against Google going on at the moment.

I did not realize this thank you!

What was that first accounting document?

For double-entry accounting, Luca Pacioli's Summa. The history of accounting is a bit more complex and unknown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_de_arithmetica

Curious for HN's thoughts on this.

Jordan has been working in AI/ML for a while, and is well-known in the field [1].

He summarizes his perspective in the first 5ish minutes. I wonder what you all make of it.

[1] https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=yxUduqMAAAAJ&hl=en...

this is hilarious! the phone check is a gimmick...

they have a chrome extension and app [1]

saw them on product hunt a few weeks back [2]

[1] https://www.getclearspace.com [2] https://www.producthunt.com/products/clearspace

They got me to download it, but you can’t block Safari (where all of my procrastination goes), and to block a specific site, you have to have the site’s app installed. Bummer.

I downloaded it too, and was disappointed to see I need to enter a phone number before being able to even try the app. I went through the onboarding and then deleted immediately. They need to be more transparent about what the app does (why it's better than just using the screen time controls, which it seems to hook into), and what the paid features do. But mostly they need to not force you to enter your phone number before you can learn any of this.

I've also seen people put disposable cameras at every table, or have a few polaroids circulating

Polaroid film, that's real money.