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Prior to that it was stuffed with devices labeled only as "Apple iPhone Charger" so I'll take the million jibberish brands

You're thinking of Blink, which was forked from WebKit years ago. WebKit is the one maintained by Apple and used in Safari.

Using WebKit makes this one of very few desktop browsers that aren't based on Blink (Chrome, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, etc)


If it weren’t $3500+ I’d love one. The world isn’t ready for that price point.

Exactly. More expensive than a high end desktop or laptop while having less useful software than an iPad. No thanks.

If it were around the $500 point I’d pick one up in a heartbeat. Maybe even $1000. But $3500 is nuts for how little they’re offering. It seems like a toy for the ultra rich.

I assumed the price would eventually come down. But it seems like they’ll just cancel the project entirely. Pity.


I’m assuming Vision Pro is viewed as what the Newton was to the iPhone. It will provide some useful insight way ahead of its time but the mainstream push will only happen after a number of manufacturing breakthroughs happen allowing for a comfortable daily driver UX. Optics and battery tech will need multiple generational leaps to get to a lightweight goggle / sunglasses form factor with Apple-tier visuals, tracking, and battery life…

Magic Leap 2 and HoloLens 2 proved that we still haven't cracked the code on AR/XR. Similar price point, plenty of feasible enterprise use cases for folks willing to pony up money to hire Unity or Unreal devs. And I'm sure there are enough of them tired of being flogged to death by the gaming industry. But they both went splat.

It's going to take a revolution on miniaturization AND component pricing for XR to be feasible even for enterprise use cases, it seems.


Apple can afford to improve and cheapify this thing for a decade.

That’s sort of what they did with the Watch.

It has incrementally improved, and gotten cheaper, to the point that I now see them everywhere. When they first came out, they were pretty expensive. Remember the $17,000 gold Watch (which is now obsolete)? The ceramic ones were over a couple of grand.

But the dream of selling Watch apps seems to have died. I think most folks just use the built-in apps.


The $17,000 Apple Watch was a (rather silly) attempt to compete in the high end watch space. However, they also launched the base "Sport" model at US$349.

Not really anything like the watch, the existence of a stupidly expensive "luxury" version doesn't change the fact that the normal one started at $350.

I think the current rumor is that development of a cheaper XR headset has been shelved in favor of working on something to compete with Meta's AI glasses.


Only when you're currently in the rightmost tab, but yes

Yes, I meant past the end of all tabs

Steam Frame coming this year, I’m sure Valve is throwing money at the Linux VR situation


I wonder if it's still coming. With the extreme memory pricing, I don't know if they can still sell it for a reasonable price.


Do they make more money from OEM licenses, or from bombarding Windows users with OneDrive and Copilot 365 advertisements?


What if it's actually the AI-derived "user profile," sold to advertisers/govts, after their mandatory bot scans all your drive.

Just hypothetically... of course they're not actually doing this?

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Anywho, doesn't matter cause my Xeon went from Windows 10 to Linux, this year. Still rocking a Win7Pro Core2Duo (as my second favorite machine).


Or if you’re plugging into a desktop where the ports are vertical


There is usually still a concept of front. Most desktops if laid down would be laying on their right side (so the motherboard & cpu aren't upside down). From there you can still pretty easily tell how the port is oriented without looking.


BMW is moving the other way, from prismatic cells to cylindrical

https://phdenergy.com/beyond-teslas-4680-why-bmws-gen6-4695-...


The more expensive hardware is Steam Deck OLED, available since about 2 years ago, it starts at $549


The SD_OLED is my second game console after the PS2.


I figured the messaging is target more at investors than customers


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