No, I mean soliciting upvotes, which is against the rules (and culture) of HN. We discussed this elsewhere in this thread.

FWIW, I don't have any dog in this race; I'm just a HN reader who liked Pinboard and voted for it.

Is it possible to address the points raised by `beeboop' and `killwhitey' above with the data available -- would long-term HN members have been enough to put Pinboard over the top ? (i.e. the vote brigading had no substantive effect and it was just the phone conversation that prompted the decision)

Even easier: how many up votes did the original "Apply HN" for Pinboard get before he sent out his first tweet about it?

If it's more than what one of the "winners" got in the second poll, then the whole argument is over.

To do or not to do the following is of course entirely your / YCF's prerogative, but: would you perhaps consider providing a more quantitative answer to 'toyg's query below - in particular: "Even easier: how many up votes did the original "Apply HN" for Pinboard get before he sent out his first tweet about it?"

Surely this is not hard to check? I think many people are justifiably curious, given that "vote brigading" is in my mind an accusation. (I understand that the decision has already been made and that it will not be changed.)