Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

No-deal is not the terms the UK wants. If it did, it would’ve already left.


By UK you mean Theresa May. No-deal is what leavers want. Remain is what remainers want.


No, I mean the UK.

Theresa May is so tone-deaf she’s made 80-90% of voters think she’s on the opposite team to themselves, where half of the population think that means “Remainer” and half think it means “Leaver”.

Unfortunately, that 10-20% support for her deal means that literally no option has majority support.

No-deal and Remain both independently beat May’s deal in a direct competition.

If you put the question “do you want no deal?” to the population, almost all the supporters of May’d deal say “no”, but if you put the question “do you want to cancel Brexit and remain?” to the population, almost all the supporters of May’d deal say “no”.

If you make it a normal three-way referendum, I’ve seen Leavers complain that would split the vote.

If you make it a three-way vote with single-transferable-vote, you end up with a real-life version of Arrow’s impossibly Theorem, where voter preferences are non-transitive.


I don't think that's accurate. The vote was on Leave (with the specifics completely unspecified) vs. Remain.

Within those who favor Leave, no-deal may be what the majority want. That isn't the majority of the country, though. If you said that May's deal and no deal were the only two flavors of Leave available, then I think it would come down to 48% Remain (using the figure from the previous vote), at most 35% for no-deal, and at least 17% for May's deal. Even if the exact numbers are off, there's no way that no-deal has so much support among leavers that it has more total support than remain.

Worse, of those who support something like May's deal, some would prefer remaining to a no-deal exit. So it's unclear, if the only options on the table are specifically a no-deal exit and remaining, that a no-deal exit is what the people want.

That's of the voters. In Parliament... who knows.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: