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> whether you believe it or not, it is a fact

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where's yours?


You think any sizable group of people would be able to keep any secret, not even talking about such a juicy one, for any significant amount of time?


NSA Domestic spying kept secret 30 years Area 51 kept secret 39 years National Reconnaissance Office kept secret 51 years Operation Paperclip kept secret 53 years US service members who died during d-day rehearsal kept secret 34 years Amnesty to Japanese war criminals in Unit 731 kept secret 51 years

The truth is UFO’s and the alien pretense are too big to keep secret that his why there are already so many leaks from within the military, but until things are officially acknowledge the public is still just guessing.


Evidence?


https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/uap_atflir

I don't have that evidence but likely someone at Raytheon does...

“We might be the system that caught the first evidence of E.T. out there,” said Aaron Maestas, director of engineering and chief engineer for Surveillance and Targeting Systems at Raytheon's Space and Airborne Systems business. “But I’m not surprised we were able to see it. ATFLIR is designed to operate on targets that are traveling in excess of Mach 1. It’s a very agile optical system with a sensitive detector that can distinguish between the cold sky and the hot moving target quite easily.”


clearly it's all being hidden in area 51...


The government has been studying UFO's at the highest levels since at least 1947 and likely prior. You don't study something closely for 7 decades and not learn anything.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intellig...


"You don't study something closely for 7 decades and not learn anything..."

I do believe that any qualified historian of science could point out to you topics in linguistics (origin of language), psychology (nature of consciousness), astrophysics (what's inside a black hole, if anything), and many other topics where more than 7 decades have gone by, with lots of smart people studying a topic, and yet at the end of that much time practically nothing has been learned.


OK let me see if I understand the chain of inference here.

  The government has been studying UFOs for 7 decades
  ==> The government has learned something
  ==> The government has acquired alien technology
I'm mostly with you on that first arrow, but you lost me on the 2nd.


I believe the last 2 points because I don't believe that credible military personnel with long and distinguished careers, would tarnish their reputations terribly for no apparent gain, especially near the end of their lives.

Check out Philip J Corso or Robert Salas, but there are , many, many others who have blown the whistle including Walter Haut the public affairs officer during the Roswell crash (and recovery).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell

https://www.disclose.tv/capt-robert-salas-ufos-shut-down-nuc...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Haut


I don't know, certain end of life seems to be the perfect opportunity to publish all that fantastic evidence that would mark the most important distinguishable moment for humanity as a whole so far.


Just because they were there doesn't mean they the have evidence


UFOs are literally just Unidentified Flying Objects. Doesn't mean that they're alien in origin (and in fact, they're almost certainly not).





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