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It's not just the numbers, there are other wild assumptions going on.

> That means almost all iPhone users are still either using wired earphones or none at all.

I'm sorry, what? Non-Apple branded Bluetooth earphones (including AirPod knockoffs) are ubiquitous, and far outnumber wired earphones (in part thanks to Apple and many Android OEMs dropping headset jacks).



> (in part thanks to Apple and many Android OEMs dropping headset jacks).

That only happened on high-end smartphones. Low-end and mid-range still have 3.5 mm socket.

(Also, I actually look around regularly at the train station, and I still see mostly wired headsets. I'm using a wireless one, btw.)


> I actually look around regularly at the train station, and I still see mostly wired headsets.

I see the occasional default Apple headphones, but the vast majority of people are using Airpod-alikes.


Maybe an American thing. Look around at Amsterdam CS or Utrecht CS or Rotterdam CS. Mostly wired.


Berlin still has Walkman in the wild.


I saw them everywhere in Rome last summer. Lots of tourists of course, but I try to go off the beaten path and I saw quite a few locals wearing them too.


That might be a dutch thing, dutch people are notoriously tight-fisted


Indeed. Here in SE Asia, everybody still uses 3.5mm jack smartphones. It's a rare occurrence to see wireless earpods, and almost always these are cheap Chinese AirPod knockoffs.


Some of the cheap knockoffs are getting really good. Mine get 4.5 hrs battery life, have the optical sensor on the bud that pauses when taken out and wireless charging case including an cloned (stolen) apple SoC that gives the real battery life of the "airpods" and case when the case is opened.


Interesting! Have a link?



> Here in SE Asia, everybody still uses 3.5mm jack smartphones

This does not match my experience at all, but SE Asia is a diverse place.


Doesn't match mine either. Here in Japan (at least in Tokyo) it's uncommon to see wired headphones. Most are random wireless headphones, I would estimate 20-40% only being AirPods.


Japan is technically NOT in SE Asia.


Singapore, I see a lot of airpods though it probably depends on the area.


I should have been more specific. Probably should have said, "everywhere in SE Asia outside of Singapore."


I was thinking Bangkok, where almost everyone is rocking some kinda wireless headphones. Lots and lots and lots of cheap AirPod knockoffs


I'm in Hanoi, I see airpods everyday (and no, I don't go to tourist areas). I myself use Huawei Freepods 3, which cost about the same as Airpods (~180 usd).

Go to a random rural town in a midwestern US state and I'm sure you probably won't see people wearing Airpods, which is probably what people are picturing when someone says SE Asia.

We have paved roads believe it or not, as well as a large class of people who use the newest iPhones.


I think the number of wireless phones in Brazil is astounding. At least one in ten people.

Which means that almost everyone still uses wired phones.


In NL, I see mainly AirPods. less wired. and some other wireless brands.


Reporting from Toronto:

You see a lot of AirPods (I was gifted a set myself) but you see even more wireless over-ear headphones. I probably notice those the most. And wired are still common, though not necessarily 3.5mm.


I dunno... I was watching an NBA game* the other day and 4/5 players had AirPods in as they entered the arena and the other singleton had over the ear headphones. This totally caught me off-guard, and was so noticeable I made a mental note of it.

* I know, not representative of the general population, and USA-centric, but the A list tends to be representative of what people want and, if they can afford it, what they have.


I wouldn't be surprised if they were given them by apple for free - that's pretty good marketing.


Have you watched The Defiant Ones[1] on HBO? I can't exactly recall if they were giving Beats out to players for free, but there is a segment of the documentary where they talk about how ubiquitous Beats became because players were shown wearing them in the pregame. You could be pretty spot on with your assumption.

1 - https://www.hbo.com/the-defiant-ones


> And wired are still common, though not necessarily 3.5mm.

What do you mean by not necessarily 3.5mm?


Apple issues wired headphone with each iPhone. They connect through Lightning (the same slot you use to charge and sync the phone).


And Google Pixel phones (and presumably other jackless android phones) come with USB-C headphones.


Interesting, I had no idea such headphones existed.


Yeah this line alone also made me do a double take and question everything else he said


Likewise. I just closed the article after that; his credibility was gone.


Non-Apple branded Bluetooth earphones (including AirPod knockoffs) are ubiquitous, and far outnumber wired earphones (in part thanks to Apple and many Android OEMs dropping headset jacks).

Do you mean they are ubiquitous with people using iPhones? Because here is Australia I would guesstimate that 80% of in-ear wireless earphone used with Apple devices are AirPods.

I think probably 50% of people I know who've bought an iPhone in the last year have bought AirPods at the same time (if they didn't already have them).

Over/On ear headphone are a different story, as is Android.


> I'm sorry, what? Non-Apple branded Bluetooth earphones (including AirPod knockoffs) are ubiquitous, and far outnumber wired earphones (in part thanks to Apple and many Android OEMs dropping headset jacks).

Maybe in new sales, but not in deployed use.

I’ll buy a quality headset or in-ear and it might last me a decade.


Imagine thinking that AirPods were the first wireless headset.


The terminology "true wireless" became popular because of the wire linking the two sides on older bluetooth headsets.

When you think about it, the new usage (wireless = no wires at all) is more accurate than the old (wired, but not connected the the phone itself by wires)


Well technically, most others had a "wire" connecting left part to the right part :P


100% of the world calls those "wireless" not "wired":

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wireless+headset&ia=images&iax=ima...

Every headset has some amount of wiring.


So they have wires but they are wireless...

Yet half of HN has a fit anytime the word “Serverless” is uttered.


Imagine thinking the AirPods are a "headset."



In my environment we tend to call "Headset" something that is set up for quality conversations (think gaming or office headsets - large earmuffs and microphone boom being defining quality) and "Headphones" things that are intended primarily for consuming/listening (which may incidentally have a microphone, typically inferior).

Understanding that may not be wider usage, I feel there exists a need (or at least benefit) for two words - something which is good/intended for listening, and something which is good/intended for conversing.


AirPods are intended (and great) for talking


They are absolutely great... for person with the AirPods. For the rest of the poor suckers on the call, it's headache time.

As I'm currently in operations, vast majority of my team spends 4+++ hrs a day on calls and conference calls. We'll take a $20 3.5mm Logitech with a boom over a $100 bluetooth with a boom over $200 bluetooth without a boom in a heart beat. Anybody with airpods [or Samsung etc equivalents] has been taken out to the back alley and shot by now.


When did I say or imply that?




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