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Paywalled, outline.com doesn’t help


Odd. It wasn't paywalled for me.

Does this work? http://archive.is/Oj2qI


That site works fine as long as you don’t use Cloudflare for DNS. It’s technical and opinionated at the same time[1]; I don’t have a side or stake in it, but I found I couldn’t make archives on it or otherwise access this domain while I was using Cloudflare DNS, so this is still happening as of a month or so when I last tried it using the Cloudflare DNS iOS app[2]. Try it for yourself. Set your DNS to 1.1.1.1 and try to visit your link.

Again, I’m not disagreeing with the archive.is stance either. I do think their argument has merits; I just think this is a case of competing incentives for archive.is and Cloudflare. Archive.is likely has reason to not want their server or scraper IPs burned, or otherwise blocked by Cloudflare or associated sites or users, anymore than archive.is would want to be blocked by any domain; it’s counter to the purpose of the site, regardless of what site operators may want. By that same token, Cloudflare has a financial and business interest in doing what customers request of them, within their SLA and product matrix. I don’t find either party’s position surprising, but I don’t know where it goes from here, if anywhere.

DNS is an unwieldy holdover from a past era, but it’s what makes URLs work for many use cases. Tested, functional software is a good thing, but so are alternatives. This isn’t meant to be about DNS generally, just about archiving services, I guess, and how hard it is to find the good ones we have, as well as create new ones.

Maybe things like Web3Torrent[3] can bridge this gap?

[1] on HN (2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828317

[2] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1-1-1-1-faster-internet/id1423...

[3] https://blog.statechannels.org/introducing-web3torrent/



Not OP, but doesn’t work for me.




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