I like what you said and it is colliding with my pessimism that Californians and California (I live here) want to secede from the rest of the US. At least in principle they’re more pro-China than pro-US. Tells you a lot.
> I like what you said and it is colliding with my pessimism that Californians and California (I live here) want to secede from the rest of the US
No California and Californians generally don't. They didn't even at the height of their opposition to the Trump Administration. Perhaps unsurprisingly, since advocacy for California separatism was backed by the same foreign interests who intervened in US politics in favor of Trump.
> At least in principle they’re more pro-China than pro-US
>> At least in principle they’re more pro-China than pro-US
> This is likewise false.
Not the above commenter, but there are many, many people in SF that I've personally met who prefer China to the US. They have a disgust towards half of their own country who votes unlike the way they vote, towards anyone religious, towards anyone from a lower-class non-urban background.
I've met plenty of these people in LA and Santa Barbara as well, but in SF it easily feels like a majority.
