Yes. And that matters if you believe in race as a diversity criterion, and an important thing to keep similar to the rest of society.
You will also find that the representation of Manchester United fans vs Liverpool or Chelsea fans will not be representative of the general population. For instance somehow my friends from the subcontinent seem to all be Liverpool fans.
But what is important is that people who want to do something are not discouraged on the basis of things that don't matter directly. For instance I studied engineering, and there were maybe a couple dozen women out of 150. What matters is not that half of people are women, but that whatever women want to come are allowed to do so, and not told that they can't because they're women. Do we want a society where we cut down the number of male engineering students to match the number of women? Or where we allow women into the course who didn't pass the same standard?
I think this ratio-matching or whatever you want to call it is poisonous. It actually creates a less diverse society when you try to distribute everyone proportionally to their characteristics, rather than letting them try whatever they feel like.
>Do we want a society where we cut down the number of male engineering students to match the number of women? Or where we allow women into the course who didn't pass the same standard?
I can't speak for the universities or such. I have no plans for solving this issue with a magic wand.
But people think race is real, they treat people of different races differently, people of those races think of themselves as that race, or gender, or etc. That's a real measurable thing.
I think the social issues of a given race struggling largely as a whole is also real and have real effects on everyone, I don't oppose efforts to address it.
I don't fully understand your last line but admittedly I'm personally less concerned with "diverse" as I am addressing social groups that have cycles of poverty and other issues.
It's true that race correlates with various social issues. But why not address the social issues as such, rather than as race issues?
After all the problems were created by accepting a racial system in the first place. Write it into law and we ensure that future generations will be thinking about race all the time, thus perpetuating the problem.
You will also find that the representation of Manchester United fans vs Liverpool or Chelsea fans will not be representative of the general population. For instance somehow my friends from the subcontinent seem to all be Liverpool fans.
But what is important is that people who want to do something are not discouraged on the basis of things that don't matter directly. For instance I studied engineering, and there were maybe a couple dozen women out of 150. What matters is not that half of people are women, but that whatever women want to come are allowed to do so, and not told that they can't because they're women. Do we want a society where we cut down the number of male engineering students to match the number of women? Or where we allow women into the course who didn't pass the same standard?
I think this ratio-matching or whatever you want to call it is poisonous. It actually creates a less diverse society when you try to distribute everyone proportionally to their characteristics, rather than letting them try whatever they feel like.