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Don’t quote. Make it yours and say it yourself (sive.rs)
35 points by Barrera on June 8, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 15 comments


There are a few good reasons it's useful to reference things:

1) To keep yourself separate from ideas. If they are yours, they are harder to change. Paul Graham spoke about a similar idea in an essay about keeping your identity small.

2) It helps remember them, and create a system you can iterate through. Like, "are there any ideas from economics which are helpful here?" and so on. This is an idea from Charlie Munger.

3) It lets you avoid sounding like a fraud. If I say "I have this idea that you need to practice for 10,000 hours to get good at things", or "I came up with a theory that the force applied divided by the mass will give me the acceleration", I sound like a fraud. To function in society you need people to not think you are a fraud.


> Paul Graham spoke about a similar idea in an essay about keeping your identity small.

I don't know. I follow PG on Twitter, and it doesn't seem like he keeps his identity separate from his ideas. He has some really good ideas and clearly he has thought about them for some time, but you can't budge him from his worldview. And worldviews are harder to change. [1]

[1](https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1534617377912111112)


I didn't say he does it. I said he spoke about it...


"I am by nature too lazy and slothful to go looking for authors to say what I know how to say without them." — Miguel de Cervantes, Don Quixote


If its not an original idea it makes sense to reference where you got it. I think it's about humility rather than showing someone you're well read.


George Fox, the founder of the Society of Friends (a.k.a the Quakers), had a Christian variant on this, which I'll quote - because quoting things is fine, it's still not in opposition to making them your own! :

"You will say Christ saith this, and the Apostles say this, but what canst thou say?"

As he saw it, it was not acceptable to point to scripture and say you were just following orders. You were called to be a friend of Christ, who understands what your friend wants, and wants the same. (That's the point of John 15:15, though it's obviously not John 15:15 doing the calling.) So your judgements should be able to stand on their own.


Do not quote. Make it yours and then say it yourself.


"If you can't handle my quotes, you won't understand that I'm the best and you deserve the worst" - Gilgamesh


Please stop stealing my ideas. This has been my idea for at least an hour now.


You can say anything in quotes. People wont get mad at you, they get mad at the person you quotes.

The same thing happens with ventriloquist. The puppet takes the heat.


If you like and believe in something you heard, own it; don't reference the source.


What a childish approach to research.


Is this author writing research? It doesn’t seem like it.


(2019)


Barrera, 2022. And vintermann 2022 too.




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