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It would really be more about the concept of putting someone in a box, rather than the implementation of it, which surely is flawed.

I hear: "Slavery is never acceptable"

But then I also hear: "Sometimes locking someone in a box forever is acceptable"

I can't square those two viewpoints.



It looks like you are once again the only user in the whole comment section posting the things you claim to be hearing.

I will agree narrowly though: US prisons should not use torture to compel labor by prisoners.


Right. No one is saying that putting people in a box is kidnapping/abduction because it is baldly ridiculous . However, it is the same exact logic as calling prison labor slavery.

If someone can tell me how prison labor is slavery, but putting them in a box is not kidnapping/abducting, I would be most edified.


I am claiming that putting someone in a box is abduction. Whether or not the safety of society requires e.g. a violent criminal to be sequestered from that society is immaterial. Taking someone from the world and sticking them in a box is abduction.


Please get this Twitter-style debate tactics out of this space. Putting words in other peoples' mouths is a hideous trait.


Saying "no one is saying this" is putting words in other people's mouths?


> prison labor is slavery, but putting them in a box is not kidnapping/abducting

No one ever claimed this in this comment space. You are inventing a straw-man.

I am happy to vouch for the claim that prison labor is slavery and prison in general is coercive detention, ie, kidnapping, as are many others I'm sure.


In the comment you're replying to, I literally say "no one is saying this"

Why does prison labor get called slavery, but prison detention gets the euphemistic treatment of "coercive detention"? Why isn't prison labor "coercive labor"?


Arrest is kidnapping. When someone other than the state does the crime of imprisonment, that crime is "false imprisonment," so there doesn't seem to be a big divide between the language we use for the two things.

Totally unrelated to language issues, kidnapping and imprisonment are very harmful and people ought to exercise great care to do them very little.




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