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That's a misunderstanding. Fake meat products don't contain "a ton of additives".


Water, soy protein concentrate, coconut oil, sunflower oil, natural flavors, 2% or less of potato protein, methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, food starch modified, soy leghemoglobin, salt, mixed tocopherols (antioxidant), soy protein isolate, zinc gluconate, thiamine hydrochloride (vitamin B1), niacin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), and vitamin B12. This is the list of ingredients in an impossible burger. Just so it can somewhat (barely) mimic the taste and texture of actual meat, for what? Shoving myself full of GMO produce and preservatives? It's much more fulfilling and better for your own health to buy fresh produce, make your own umami rich, organic blends and eat them and not strive to mimic something it cannot be.


Almost all of those are protein and vitamins - good for you. Then there are some carbs. Not horrible.

Even sunflower oil gets a bad rap bc it's assoc w proc foods but it's fine just don't get it too hot or overconsume:

https://www.webmd.com/diet/sunflower-oil-good-for-you

Coconut oil's sat fat is highly contested and mixed. Very hard to untangle its effects but it seems to be nonlinear: A little seems okay.


Excess vitamins may in fact be bad for you in some situations. Studies using antioxidants A, C, and E found they can accelerate cancer growth.


Wouldn't most food accelerate cancer growth? Cancer needs nutrients to grow the same way normal cells do.


It fits the definition of ultraprocessed food since fats and proteins are modified (that's sort of the whole point, to create a new texture).

Which to me is the downside of a lot of the "replacement" foods. Industrial, processed food, that is pretty far away from whole foods. I'd prefer to just eat whole foods instead, vegetarian or not.


Do you have anything at all to back up the claim that modified proteins and fats as found in fake meat products are unhealthy? I can't find anything. This seems like superstition.


So you're claiming GMO is bad for your health? Wow. And preservatives? Can you point out the preservatives in the ingredient list? I can't see any. Except maybe salt...

Really not convinced at all.


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What looks reasonable to you might not look reasonable to someone else, like someone that strives to avoid seed oils and other industrial products and live above 90 years of age.


Haha, do you believe that olive oil isn't made on a large ("industrial") scale? Or lard, or tallow, for that matter. Man, this is just more FUD, scientists aren't arguing about this, shitty fitness influencers are. But hey, I do hope that you live to 90 or above, cool goal. I just hope you don't waste too much time listening to Joe Rogan. I'm not gonna waste more of my precious (and I guess to you very short) life on this. For science based fitness advice I like Stronger by Science, but I've also heard that Barbell Medicine is good.

Cheers.


Large scale is not the same as industrial product. Nearly all food sold is made in large scale. But industrial means going one or more steps further. Processing food changes it. If you sell an apple, even if you harvest a million of them, means you still have an apple. But taking the apple, processing it in some oil, juice, jam and what else, means you have industrialized it, and made something new, with new problems.


Put another way treating meat with ammonia or chlorine and whatever else to turn it into a salable whole chicken or pink slime comes with its own problems.


Anytime someone says "scientists arent arguing about popular topic x", a new Einstein gets aborted.

"Cooked vegetable oil worsened inflammation in the colon, enhanced tumor growth, promoted gut leakage, and caused harmful bacterial products to leak." https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/dtqdmb


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Avoiding "seed oils" is a mania made up by internet grifters; if you cared about science you'd want to replace animal fats with (non-tropic) vegetable oils!


https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/dtqdmb

"Cooked vegetable oil worsened inflammation in the colon, enhanced tumor growth, promoted gut leakage, and caused harmful bacterial products to leak into the bloodstream in mice.

This study used canola oil which is high in polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) as are other vegetable oils such as soy and corn. PUFAs are prone to oxidation which was shown to be the mechanism causing damage in this study.

Other cooking oils and fats that are not high in PUFAs such as avocado oil, olive oil, coconut oil, and butter are not likely to have the same effect. One thing to keep in mind is that olive oil has a low smoke point so when frying things at very high temperatures avocado oil may be a better option since it has a high smoke point."


> Avoiding "seed oils" is a mania made up by internet grifters

Yes, a big FU to those guys. They are akin to conspiracy theorists that will cherry-pick quotes from studies they don't understand and don't cite (how to you even cite something on Instagram?) and spread BS opinions for clicks.

Because of that crap, the <1.8% sunflower oil in your favourite milk substitute becomes a substantial health risk overnight, and you have to hold debates with your partner/family to debunk their falsehoods.


So for all the fear mongering your main (or only) concern with Impossible is the sunflower oil?


“Natural flavors” frequently used to mean, “this product has a small amount of MSG in it, but we don’t want to list that”. At least in the US. I am not sure if the FDA regulations still allow that though.


Not in EU it doesn't, you cannot omit an E list substance.

But Impossible still has "natural flavors" on the ingredients list. This happens to be mostly apple juice. Caramelizes and produces the right amount of tangy taste.


> That looks like a completely reasonable list of ingredients

22 ingredients in a steak is not reasonable, whatever the ingredients are.




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