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It's not just bloat. It's also shitty devs that create more work for everybody else.


That's not how they decide who gets laid off.


It probably is sorry.


Sorry what is a soy latte programmer


It's 4chan gobbledegook that has no place in actual discourse


Your comment has nothing to do with his/her point and also has no place in this discussion. You're trying to use an identity attack to dismiss the point.


I think they are referring to this: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soydev

Appears to be a derogatory term that, by diminishing the efforts and abilities of others, is used to make one feel better about one's self.


OP seems to imply developers that order soy milk for their latte are on average poor developers. I’d find that correlation to be quite unlikely.


It's a sexist alt-right meme because they associate soy with estrogen. In this imagined causality, someone who consumes soy milk would be more feminine, and of course women are bad programmers.


>sexist alt-right meme

Don't make me laugh. "Alt-right" is a stupid, nonsensical term made up by news corporations to serve as a convenient boogeyman, and the meme itself isn't sexist in the slightest. Elevated estrogen levels in men ARE detrimental for numerous reasons. This has nothing to do with women, period.

Soy is associated with elevated estrogen levels because of phytoestrogens. Whether or not they actually affect the human endocrine system isn't clear, but you can't deny the customers of Soylent products all share... similar traits.


> It's a sexist alt-right meme because they associate soy with estrogen.

???

> In this imagined causality, someone who consumes soy milk would be more feminine, and of course women are bad programmers.

You're looking too deep into this. It is you who is implying that.


Sexist really? seems like you have a preconceived ideas in your head. Stop strawmanning. Also its not that serious.


Could you try to explain the link to soy milk? When I think of people who order soy milk, I think they are likely to be lactose intolerant, which then I would associate with being less likely to be northern European ancestry, which then I might associate that with likely to be harder working and maybe marginally better developers, so I’d guess the relationship might be opposite to your suggestion.

Full disclosure I’m 100% northern European ancestry, 42.75% English, 37.5% Irish, 6.25% Danish. Plenty of hard working developers with similar ancestry to me, neither the less, the stereotype would be Asian developers are harder working, certainly the bosses often think that, to the point that I’ve observed what I would categorize as pro Asian biases.

Anyway, I’m guessing soy latte ordering is likely positively correlated to developer performance. Not negatively as you suggest.


A different version of "Soyboy" which itself is based off of the "Nu-Male" meme. Defining traits of a "Nu-Male" include (but are not limited to):

- A lack of masculine and mature traits (Excessively self-conscious, weak-willed, a canvas for [Current trends], potentially narcissistic)

- Beard-and-glasses aesthetic (Also previously known as the "Hipster" style)

- Terminally online and outspoken. Slacktivists

- Usually (but not always) "Leftists" with pronouns in their bio, LGBT+, BLM, Etc.

- Usually (but not always) white, male, and lives in urban areas (Portland, New York, SF, Etc.)

- Tries to come off as more intelligent than they usually are. Lacks perspective of the world at large.

And there is no shortage of these kinds of people on social media and in large technology-oriented organizations and corporations.


As a reader I did not know but it made me laugh since it tied in with a stereotype I may have had. I can speculate this to be gen X or whatever who is more concerned with the politics of doing work and fringe benefits than doing the work itself.


Riley Rojas/Jay Ersapah at SVB is a perfect example here. That was a real shitstorm - spend a lot of time on DEI/LGBT/ERG issues, spend very little time doing productive work.


Bingo, when i say soy latte programmer everyone knows exactly what I mean.



It a programmer named Latte introducing himself in Spanish.


Surely so-called 'programmers' here should be smart enough to know that the parent comment is talking about everyone here on the orange site.

Ironically, you're pretending to be dumber than the 'dumbaccount'; proving their point.




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