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> One of the most dire statistics in the US is that black people consistently place more value on education and getting certifications than white people do, and that it doesn't help them (as a group) in the market at all. A black person with a college degree has about the same likelihood of being hired as a white high school graduate who has spent time in prison.

Source? This is hard to believe.



There's seems to be a study every two months because they're easy to do, and people are hoping the problem will have magically fixed itself. But from a quick google and (https://cepr.net/report/the-continuing-power-of-white-prefer...), in 2022 the unemployment for white high school dropouts was 3.4% while the unemployment rate for black people with bachelors' degrees was 3.3%.

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/b38Bg/9/#embed

Another - black people get 50% fewer callbacks in general:

https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discrimination-against-black-...

Here's a random Ipsos poll that finds US attitudes on higher education virtually indistinguishable by race (which understates black educational values based on other studies I recall, but to say that the value put on education was indistinguishable is enough, considering the outcome.)

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/all-americans-see-val...

An interesting quote from a guy who ran a study reported on in Fortune: "White participants who opposed affirmative action were more than twice as likely to select an applicant with a white-sounding name compared with applicants perceived as Black – whether or not they had to make the simulated hiring decision in a hurry.

"By contrast, giving white participants who favor affirmative action unlimited time to choose a name from the hiring list reduced discrimination against the job candidates with names they perceived as Black-sounding by almost half."

What this means is that the 50% fewer callbacks (mentioned above) for black-sounding names became only 25% fewer if you believed in AA, but if you didn't like AA, you would call random white-sounding names twice as often as random black-sounding names.

https://fortune.com/2023/09/24/affirmative-action-race-discr...

So, I wouldn't say this random selection of links proves what I said true, but I'd say that it points pretty heavily in a direction.




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