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That's not double much, but mostly a comparably list of issues

You can block updates on Windows as well, and of course Mac updates get in your way with that "update" badge you can't get rid off.

Mac changed the whole preferences layout that you can't even resize, so much for user respect in the good consistent UI stack. Inconsistent is better if the consistency is bad. The one benefit Mac has is it looks nicer

Also, when was the last time the great UI of a text file for default shortcuts updated on a Mac? Or where is that XP-style "registry" editor that's bad, but better than nothing?

Edge: Mac has a much more important app forced on you more forcefully - that dumb file manager. Or forcing some file provider nonsense on your Dropbox obscuring your precious files.

Ads: that's just a common hyperbole, outside of the new install garbage you clean once, where is it "everywhere"?

Store: it doesn't install, shortcut isn't it, but also, on Windows it's easier to completely remove the pre-installed system apps compared to the newer macos where it's part of the locked blessed "never touch" partition



The "update" badge is a minor, ignorable inconvenience. It's nothing in comparison to the in-your-face modal that blocks your entire desktop.

There are various alternative file manager apps for macOS the same way there are for Windows. They don't replace Finder the same way Total Commander on Windows doesn't replace explorer.exe. Or what do you mean?

Ads in Windows sometimes come as notifications. Sometimes they appear as banners in the explorer. Sometimes, after you install a system update, they block your access to the desktop with a dark pattern to get you to subscribe to Office 360 or something.

Oh and by the way: Microsoft is also very insistent that you use a Microsoft account to log into your OS. Like, "have to use a secret key combo to open a command prompt during OOBE and run a secret command to bypass it" insistent. Apple doesn't do that. Yes you can log into an Apple account if you want to, but you can use macOS without one perfectly fine if you don't need their online services.

To be clear, I'm not saying that macOS is an ideal OS. It clearly isn't one and it clearly is going downhill. But compared to Windows 10 and 11, it could as well be ideal.


> The "update" badge is a minor, ignorable inconvenience

This badge is something I can not remove. And I can't ignore it, it interferes with notification about regular app updates. I can block updates on Windows, so there is NO "in-your-face modal that blocks your entire desktop". So it's not minor vs major (it's correct, forced restarts are a major awfulness), but minor vs nothing

> There are various alternative file manager apps for macOS the same way there are for Windows

Yes, but some operations require Finder to be running (don't remember the list, some permission settings breaks without Finder, and trash can undo delete?). On Windows I never have file explorer opened and don't suffer for it. Just like Edge is getting more integrated, so it's hard to completely remove (by the way, hello, Safari!), Finder is also way too integrated

> sometimes ... Sometimes ...Sometimes

is a far cry from "ads everywhere"

> Apple doesn't do that.

Apple requires online connection for (re)install, maybe there is some complicated step to avoid that like on Windows, but this is similar user hostile stuff

> can use macOS without one perfectly fine if you don't need their online services.

Like that service called App Store you can be just fine without?

> not saying that macOS is an ideal .. But compared to Windows 10 and 11, it could as well be ideal.

Understand that, but it clearly can't, it has way too many bad design decisions on its own to be anywhere close to ideal even on a comparable basis. I mean, I'll take the ability to find any file on my computer instantly with real time updates (that I use many times a day) over some garbage XP style control settings panel interface (which I rarely use) any given Sunday Sure, that's no thanks to the OS, it's an external app, but Apple's new shiny APFS doesn't provide me with that awesome benefit




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