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What is the crucible used for and why must it be made of quartz? Is it for refining or shaping the plutonium?


The crucible is used for holding melted silicon.

Any other material for the crucible except quartz would introduce impurities from whatever substance it is made.

Quartz is already silicon dioxide. It could introduce only silicon atoms, which do not matter at all, or oxygen atoms, which also do not matter much.

The only alternatives to quartz would be other silicon compounds that have a melting point higher than pure silicon, e.g. silicon nitride, but all of them are more expensive than quartz.

In the past, besides the crucibles for holding melted silicon, quartz was widely used for the walls of the ovens (typically having the form of a quartz tube) where silicon wafers were heated for various operations, e.g. for diffusion, and also for the wafer carriers on which the wafers were placed while inside the ovens (a.k.a. "boats").

These uses expose the material to lower temperatures than in the crucibles, because the wafers are solid, not melted.

Quartz is still used for these purposes, but in many cases it has been replaced with polycrystalline pure silicon, which can resist to these lower temperatures and it also cannot introduce any impurities. In comparison with quartz, polysilicon has the advantages of matched thermal expansion with the silicon wafers and of higher mechanical strength at high temperatures.


They melt the high-purity silicon in high-purity quartz crucibles to ensure a single crystal in the resulting product;

https://www.mmtc.co.jp/en/products/quartz.html

"Semiconductor devices, the foundation of the semiconductor industry, are manufactured by creating a fine electronic circuit on a silicon wafer made of single-crystal silicon.

Single-crystal silicon is made from high-purity polycrystalline silicon (polysilicon) and is grown by filling a quartz crucible with the silicon before heating and melting it in the extracting machine.

A high-purity quartz crucible is the optimal container to ensure the purity of molten silicon when manufacturing single-crystal silicon."


I knew it was absolutely crucial for semiconductors, I just saw "non-proliferation" and thought there was some obscure usage for silicon specifically for nukes. Mere semiconductor use is an odd thing for anti-nuke protestors to single out. computers are essentially a commodity at this point, why not protest copper mines because copper wire is used in circuits?


Ah, I missed the 'plutonium' at the end of your comment. Not from the area, but I suspect the protests there are more due to the HEU production site 20 miles away although I know the original plutonium manufacturing method resulted in a small 'button' of plutonium that was left in the bottom of a high-temp crucible after the final reduction step, so maybe this facility was instrumental in those crucibles?


Pluntonium? In semiconductor manufacturing? Tell me more please.


> The Black Hills are a relatively obscure source of the semiconductor-grade quartz we use in everything from chips to nuclear warheads.

Maybe read the thread you're replying to?


Nuclear warheads have electronics with very sensitive timing requirements. It is these components, and not the processing of fissile material, that the quartz is needed for.


I see. If a component is in a nuclear warhead, it must be made of plutonium. The things one learns!


I just saw that it was the target of "non-proliferation protestors" so I thought it had some arcane use as a component of a warhead.


They have a use, but my ability to talk about it is limited.




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