> The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states.

By what metric?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Ranking

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_indices

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.

> Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

* https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-ind...

> The US is arguably more democratic

Because they have elections?

I always thought that when Americans say they’re a democracy they mean that in sort of propagandist way. Like, installing democracy as justification for military aggression.

But it seems that now some people really believe it? The bi-partisan system sponsored by corporations, where candidates are vetted through the systems - it reminds me of the Chinese communism with two parties instead.

Just compare it to Swiss democracy.

When was the last time an candidate from an independent political party became a president in the USA?

Switzerland is not EU

Explain.

Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.