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> I don't get the impression they save any time - it's just different stuff. they're constantly doing things with permissions

Permissions in the cloud is whole other beast, especially in Azure. You can easily spend a week figuring out various managed identity issues.

As for time saving: I've noticed cloud engineers often build a huge contraption of Terraform, Ansible scripts then bots and processes around them. That is then where the focus and time goes too.

And with any software, it is never done. It can always be better.

Classic sysops is much faster in a state of "done, no need to touch it now".



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