That's why Jesus said "Better pick up a stone otherwise you're just encouraging adultery!"
I'm not for encouraging people to get abortions. I think abortions are a terrible and sad thing. I wish for a world where nobody would ever need to have such a procedure done. I also think its terrible to have the state force people to carry risky pregnancies to term. I also think its bad for us to then go on and be hateful to those who have had an abortion, and I also think its wrong to firebomb places which give healthcare.
> That's why Jesus said "Better pick up a stone otherwise you're just encouraging adultery!"
Your implied argument is what, exactly? That JC opposed the death penalty for adultry, ergo he's against shaming single mothers, even if it leads to better outcomes? Bit of a stretch.
> I also think its bad for us to then go on and be hateful to those who have had an abortion, and I also think its wrong to firebomb places which give healthcare.
These opinions are shared by all mainstream Christian churches and the overwhelming majority of Christians.
My argument is Jesus taught us to not throw stones. Maybe you disagree, assuming throwing stones leads to some better outcome by your measure. Just because you're not arguing we should throw physical rocks doesn't mean you're not arguing for the stones, your stones are just different.
Like, what exactly are you proposing when you say shaming and disowning women and children? No food stamps or healthcare for kids born out of wedlock? No public education for kids born to single mothers? Trap people in abusive relationships or have those people be destitute without any aid? Very Christlike!
Tell me buddy, what stones do you propose we throw? Which are the most Christlike? After all, Paul says Jesus died for everyone, save for those single mothers and their illegitimate children!
What kind of shaming are you envisioning to prevent pregnancies? Have actual hard data to back that up?
If any of my kids have a child out of wedlock I'm not disowning my child or their kids. Don't get me wrong, I'd hope I instill virtues that lead to them never being in such a situation, but I don't think I'm called to disown my family for making a mistake. We all fail in life, we're supposed to be there for those who need help not push people away who are struggling. But I guess to you disowning them is your Christlike response. Be sure to let your kid know if they mess up they're on their own, after all that's the standard Christ holds us to right?
But hey, disowning and shaming is to you the Christlike response. And you wonder where are all these hateful Christians people talk about.
And to an extent, I do get what you're saying, and I do partially agree. I've definitely been around lots of people who say their Christian but in the end do nothing to actually push those around them, especially fellow Christians, to actually live a Christlike life. I think we should teach our kids Christian values. I think we should advocate for those around us to see our point of view. I think we should do what we can to convince society we're doing it a good way and they should follow. I don't think it's right to use government violence against people to force them to live our lifestyle though. I don't think it's right to be spiteful and mean to gentiles, to those who live a different life from us.
> These opinions are shared by all mainstream Christian churches and the overwhelming majority of Christians.
I guess you'd be surprised how many people I heard which were OK with the bombing of the fertility clinic thinking it was an abortion facility. I've had multiple people tell me they got what they had coming to them with all the embryos they've murdered. I guess you haven't seen the lines of people yelling at people going to clinics, calling people murderers and throwing refuse. I guess you haven't been in pews hearing the person up front cheering for laws that will cause people to die.
I'm not for encouraging people to get abortions. I think abortions are a terrible and sad thing. I wish for a world where nobody would ever need to have such a procedure done. I also think its terrible to have the state force people to carry risky pregnancies to term. I also think its bad for us to then go on and be hateful to those who have had an abortion, and I also think its wrong to firebomb places which give healthcare.
But many others disagree.