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Glad to hear that audiophiles have some competition in who can invent the most pointless things to split hairs over.

The photo guys need to start taping magic rocks to their cameras to really keep up though.



The worst part is its often in areas people improperly understand the benefits and downsides.

Biggest problem with good raw compression is you have a linear DNG, half processed essentially. Great, the file size is smaller, but now you miss data that processes like AI denoise can benefit from as the image is already debayered.

On the flip side, good compression like DNG 1.7 spec's jpeg-xl compression is borderline magic. Lossless is actually lossless. The lossy flavour is so good even at 105 megapixels in 16 bit (per color channel) I would challenge anyone to spot a noticeable difference compared to the original, a file possibly 20x it's size.

On a tangent, bits per channel is yet another part people split hairs over. 14 vs 16 has almost no difference, no the colours are not 'better' even in a full 16 bit workflow, the only real world perceivable difference is your darkest darks are more precise and under extreme editing conditions do look a little better if being raised extensibly in post. I digress 16 is bigger than 14 and yay marketing.

Looping back to compression, 14 bit raws without compression are padded to 16 bit lengths due to word sizes and file constraints. This bit throws off the less technically minded who make all sorts of assumptions about file sizes and being 'more lightweight to edit'.


I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen things like 16 bit luminence, 12 bit chromanance. (I guess to do that before debayering would require RGBW pixels or something like that)


They weren't just rocks. They were brilliant pebbles.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150220012844/http://www.machin...


The problem is camera marketing makes it really unclear what you're actually getting. Really lossless? Does it trigger more on-body processing? Does it throw away bits to be "visually lossless"?

If you shoot a few thousand photos and then find you can't fix exposure as well as you'd hoped and the whole batch is worse, it's a pretty big disappointment, so it's smart to be risk adverse and skeptical.


>The problem is camera marketing [...]

IMHO marketing is almost always (part of) the problem. They shouldn't drink or smoke that stuff …

Equating "lossless" with "visually lossless" or some other phrase is newspeak. We could call a JPEG of quality >= 95 (or 96 .. 99) visually lossless too then.

Losslessness is easy to define: compress something, then uncompress it again and both the original and the uncompressed file should compute to the same (cryptographic) checksum.


There's probably an untapped market for sd cards with "special" holographic stickers on them retailing for $100 each.


Maybe an audiophile SD card would also produce better photos in a camera? You never know until you try!

https://www.whathifi.com/news/sony-claims-high-end-sd-card-o...




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