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Yeah it has been banned in quite a few states -- unfortunately those same few states end up banning plain powdered kratom right along with it.

Unadultated unextracted kratom is far safer than tylenol or ibuprofen in small doses and is widely used by recovering addicts for harm reduction.

(a gram or two drastically reduces the urge to take opioids, drink alcohol, etc.)

But 15 grams -- that's a LOT. Kratom is self limiting for most people in its powder form because beyond the first few grams it doesn't get any better (you just get sleepy and nauseous).

That amount will also cause the kind of constipation that will bring you to tears.

(In and of itself, though, even fifty grams of kratom isn't enough to kill you.)

But 164 Xanax, is that what he told the AI he took? Good God, if he'd even said ten it warranted a stern recommendation to call ambulance immediately.

I don't think you can lay these ridiculous responses at the feet of Reddit drug subforums.

I haven't lurked all of them by any means but of those that I visited the meth one was about the worst and even there, many voices of reason made themselves heard.

Guy posted from a trap house, saying another resident was there with a baby what should he do and with very few exceptions this sub full of tweakers said call the cops, call CPS immediately.

I don't engage with AI much except when I am doing research for a project and it's always just a preliminary step to help me see the big picture (I check and recheck every 'fact' up, down and sideways because I am astonished by just how much it getd wrong.

But ... I really had no idea it could be quite this stupid, parroting hearsay without attribution as if it was hard data.

It's very sobering.





The nice thing about kratom as opposed to opium/opiates people don't really get their heads around is that kratom is an atypical/partial agonist. This makes it much harder to overdose on than other opiates. Anyway, I think the leaf/powder should continue to be legal. But 7-OH should not.

> Unadultated unextracted kratom is far safer than tylenol or ibuprofen in small doses and is widely used by recovering addicts for harm reduction

This is like when they introduced heroin as the safe morphine and that heroin was used to ween people off morphine. Sounds stupid now but it’s the same logic here with Kratom.




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