I'm a logical and rational person. Not a fanatic. Whether I minimize or maximize my "country's defeat" makes absolutely no difference. If Israel was defeated I'd have no problem saying that.
Israel is strategically in the best position it's been since its inception. Its economy is doing great and all the threats that have been around it have been decimated. It is a nuclear regional power that has demonstrated that nobody wishing it harm can hide. That's not to say that there aren't challenges but Iran and Hezbollah were the largest [EDIT: remaining] military threat and they're in the process of getting wiped out.
Instead of focusing on how bad Israel is how about look at what it has managed to accomplish in its relatively short time as a state and country. How much innovation. Compare to your "favorite" regimes around that are obsessed with Israel and oppressing their citizenry.
Israel only exists because of US taxpayers like me supporting it. That support no longer exists. Most of the US military facilities built in the Middle East to defend Israel have been destroyed and will not be rebuilt. The reason Israel attacked Iran now is because they know US support for their regime no longer exists. This was the last chance. The US and Israel are currently losing the war against Iran and when that defeat comes, that's the end of the road for Israel.
The US support is a fraction of Israel's budget. Fun fact, the US didn't use to support Israel when it was created. The support started much later.
Israel would do just fine without US support. Israel's enemies without oil and support from China and Russia would just be your typical third world country (I mean they're not far from that anyways).
The US and Israel are so winning against Iran. But hey, let's see. Talk in two weeks. The Iranian people also support Israel and the US by the way.
A by the way is that US facilities in the middle east were not built to "protect Israel" either.
Anyways, I'm not sure if you're interested in a real discussion here or not. I'm happy to have one.
The Iranian people absolutely do not support Israel. I'd show you dozens of videos of thousands of people in the street calling for Israel's destruction, but you said you don't want any more proof that counters your narrative. I assure you Israel needs the US to survive, which is why they are currently using the US military to commit war crimes. The UN created Israel, the UN requires the US to exist. Let's put it this way, now that the entire world hates Israel, it's time is limited. Socially, economically, militarily... it's over.
