I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Even though they semi-recently voted to stay in the UK, they were by far the highest area to vote "Remain" - 95.91%
My post was not bringing much to the discussion - I edited it to clarify my thinking. As British as the people of Gibraltar may feel, I don't think their patriotism will prevail over the prospect of being stuck from the main landmass by a border garded by a revengeful EU... Revengeful being the operative word, since there was always a crossing since the UK is not part of Schengen; but at least they were part of the EU.
I don't know if you have ever been to Gibraltar, but I have friends who have worked there, and the line that separates it from Spain is (always have been) really porous. If customs are implemented again it will just going back to the really good old days of smuggling.
I have no doubt things will keep chugging along, but the time and energy wasted through customs for the commuter working in Spain would be a major pain.
I worked there. The lines sometimes took hours. Saw cars dismantled trying to find drugs/tobbaco. I left after 5 months as I couldn't stand the border anymore. Sure, if you need a visa, things will be harder, but really doubt the queues will be much worse since Spanish border control most of the days are spiteful as hell
It's too early to even say that. No-one has ever left the EU before, there aren't even any rules drawn up. Absolutely possible that they could include the ability for independent regions to retain membership.
Yes there are, it's Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union. Scotland, Gibraltar, or whatever other country/region, will be considered as new applications for EU membership as the previous application was by a "different" country. This was reiterated by the EU during the Scottish referendum, this is no different.
Technically, this is no different. However, in practice I can understand if EU people had a motive to try to keep member countries in one piece (Catalonia is next in line). And if EU now decides to take its gloves off, it can "easily"[1] tell that Scotland or any other part of UK is very welcome to stay in EU if they so wish. It would be interesting times on the British side of the negotiation table once Scotland, Wales, North Ireland and City of London decide to split from UK and into EU...
[1] I am no lawyer nor politician, I have no idea how easy this would be from any practical point of view
the thought of the vast majority of EU countries approving EU membership for an independent Scotland and Spain vetoing it because of implications for its internal politics is an interesting one I hadn't thought of...
Venice want to become a city-state republic again, and the Italian islands also made moves about wanting independence.
Italy is very aware of this, and in the past last time someone tried a independence stunt (some guy built a artificial island and declared independence) Italy bombed the shit out it.
Italian and Spanish "estabilishment" politicians are probably panicking now, since independence movements might consider UK leaving the EU, and the potential for Scotland to leave UK, "inspiration" to make their own moves.
Wales is little England†, the Welsh voted overwhelmingly to leave. Check the stats again. You're right Scotland and Northern Ireland though. Also the City of London is the small Square Mile at the heart of London geographic area where all the finance happens, that big round thing roughly coinciding with the M25 orbital motorway is called Greater London or just London! :)
† This is not meant as a nationalist slur, or a conflation of identities - it is meant in terms of political sentiments and voting patterns. Scotland and Northern Ireland are far more devolved.
The EU is chock full of exceptions and asterisks and different arrangements for different territories. It is completely possible that in the withdrawal negotiations Gibraltar, for instance, could end up with some kind of unique status.
Any application to the EU can be vetoed by any member state. In the case of Gibraltar, given it is seen as tax heaven and it is a well-known smuggling hotspot, I really doubt Spain will accept it as an EU member. IMHO, Gibraltar is going to really suffer from Brexit.
I think they would. From their point of view it would be an improvement over the current state of affairs. As the border controls would go down. (Even though I think that would be a remote possibility.)
Ooh, good point. Gibraltar is a very interesting case. As far as I understand, they really strongly want to stay in the UK and not join Spain, but they also really strongly want to stay in the EU, presumably because of Spain.
That's a tough one. No idea how that will turn out. In my mind, I now see lots of bits and pieces of the UK becoming parts of Scotland.
I've driven past Gibraltar. My initial intention was to go visit, but they have a significant border. The UK is outside of the Schengen area, so Gibraltar is there checking passports just like they will be in a few years when out of the EU.
