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It's one thing if you want to make sharing of prurient materials to children a crime, and that already is, frankly.

But the other two, you're really okay with Florida making a felony out of the other two?

* Pornography

... is defined in the eye of the beholder. Anything can be deemed pornographic by anyone anytime. Are Judy Blume books pornographic?

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1004/obscenity-...

* Instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in grades kindergarten through three

Children are sometimes born with ambiguous genitalia at birth. Doctors used to perform sex assignment surgery at birth but no longer. So you can't help a child figure out their gender at a young age? That doesn't seem felony worthy frankly.

* Discrimination in such a way that “an individual...

Again.. who decides? Are Nazi's bad? Are WWII books about Nazi's bad? Would films about the holocaust be bad? Also not felony worthy.



> Anything can be deemed pornographic by anyone anytime

I think this is taking things to a very pedantic level. Pornography is clear when you see it. From the article: defined in the Merriam Webster dictionary as “the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement.”

> Children are sometimes born with ambiguous genitalia at birth.

That's obviously not what the issue is here. They're referring to the blurring of lines such that anyone can claim to be anything they want, no more subjective truth. Intersex, what you're referring to, is a different matter.

> Again.. who decides? Are Nazi's bad? Are WWII books about Nazi's bad? Would films about the holocaust be bad? Also not felony worthy.

That doesn't seem to be what's being referred to here. Re-read the phrasing again. An individual simply by virtue of who they are (race, sex, etc.) cannot be labeled as inherently racist or oppressive, which is very logical and sane. What's the problem with that approach?


> Pornography is clear when you see it.

That's the entire point about what constitutes what pornography is. I have to bring you around with me to decide whether the venus de milo or a copy of playboy ca. 1975 is pornography. I may afterall have different standards for what constitutes pornography than you. For the record, I don't think either of them are.

> That's obviously not what the issue is here.

That is absolutely the point. If god fucks up something as simple as genitalia, then it's clear he could also fuck up one's own sense of gender. It's possible he put a penis on a girl, say?

> An individual simply by virtue of who they are (race, sex, etc.) cannot be labeled as inherently racist or oppressive

So nazi's were never racist or oppresive? That's what the nazi's stood for. Are you saying that Nazi's can't be ever called racist because they were Nazi's? That seems silly.


> I have to bring you around with me to decide whether the venus de milo or a copy of playboy ca. 1975 is pornography

Why would any child need to be put in such a place that we need to decide whether that material constitute pornography in the first place?

Your second point is invalid (and disrespectful towards The Creator obviously). Gender and sex are tied together. Effeminate men or masculine women are a thing, but they are men and women at the end of the day. There is no such thing as "penis on a girl", other than being a mental illness. It's called gender dysphoria.

> So nazi's were never racist or oppresive?

Nazism is not a race or sex or color or other immutable part of someone. It's an ideology that one can choose whether to ascribe to it or not. This is so obvious.


Please refrain from feeding the troll.




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